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Pipeburn Poll: Full-Face, Open Face, Or None At All?


Posted on April 30th, by Andrew in Other. 79 comments

I’ve always held a fascination for America’s ability to put personal freedoms above all else. There’s few other examples of the culture that take you so quickly to the heart of the country and which speak more strongly about what it means to be an American. And in my eyes at least, nothing speaks more strongly about America’s dedication to personal freedoms than their helmet laws. Now please don’t get me wrong, I’m no spokesperson for the Helmet Law Defense League. I have never ridden a bike without a helmet and I never intend to. I value my brain too much for that. It’s what I use to love my family, earn a living, and enjoy a country ride in autumn as the sun sets. But I’ve always been one for standing up for a person’s right to choose.

Of course, it’s not as easy as all that. It’s impossible to deny that helmets reduce fatalities and brain injuries amongst the biking community, and that in turn reduces insurance premiums and medical costs for us all. And losing your ability to wipe your own arse and support your family because some drunk pensioner crushed your head like an egg is a pretty poor trade-off for the feeling of the wind in your hair. Yet American still has four states that are totally fine with their population of millions riding without helmets.

So what’s your choice? When you open the garage door in the morning and walk towards your miraculous iron horse are you carrying a closed helmet, an open one, or just a fist full of nothing?





  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/dclarson/collections/72157603849779701/ Dan

    I've been using full face helmets religiously since about 1981 when I took a spill on my XL175 doing about 65 mph on an old railroad bed and my face ended up being used as a skid plate. Never again.

  • Raúl Vicente

    My worst forced landing was into a dirt-ridden gulley, with the SV riding over my back so gently at 60km/h… I got up unharmed, only sore. I went face first and the full-face helmet did the awsome trick of keeping my visage in place, skidding over gravel and branches alike.

  • Lincoln

    I ride my bike to work everyday I'm going.

    During winter, my face would freeze and snap off in anything less than a full-face.

  • Brain Damaged

    Seen this? it looks like it was written by the tobacco company lawyers. What! theres no proof that helmets save lives, ha… http://usff.com/hldlhome.html

    me thinks the researchers have fallen off their bike a few too many times

  • http://www.68design.com Steve West

    In the early 90s I got my first bike and Rhode Island didn't have a helmet law and luckily nothing happened to me those couple of months I rode without one. Since then I've lived where helmet laws are in place and have gotten older. Now I won't ride without a full face. When I wear an open face I feel like I'm driving without my seatbelt and don't enjoy the ride for overblown fear of a crash.

    That said, I can't give a good reason to ride without one but there's no other feeling like it. I was recently in Arizone and saw people riding without helmets and could only think about Darwin.

  • http://www.footshifted.com Matt at Footshifted

    I live in one of those states that don't require helmets, Indiana. I choose to wear a helmet on every ride though. It worries me even more when the helmetless rider has on the flip-flops and shorts….

  • http://papasanphoto.com Papasan

    "Comprehensive Rider Education" is what's needed, then the well informed rider will make good choices. My motorcycle education comes via multiple goony bird landings on the pavement, some sans HELMET. Perhaps we could spare the up and coming crowd that discomfort by supplying a little knowledge of the road, and its many dangers, as well as joys.

    PAPASAN OUT!

  • Emaychee

    It's like gloves really – you only have to fall once without them and you'll want a pair every time after that. I mean, if gravel rash sucks hard enough on the palms..I'm happy with my chin the way it is!

  • Jason

    Always full face for me. I can't understand how anyone could ride with anything else. I can't even ride with the shield open. It feels like I can't breath from all the wind. That and the thought all the bugs that end up encrusted on my helmet would be on my face. No thanks

  • 522design

    I live in state of New Hampshire we have no helmet laws, and our state motto is live free or die, it's nice to have a choice but I wear my brain bucket every time

  • Craig

    I live in one of the four "helmet free" states in the US (Colorado), but would never dream of even riding around the block without some sort of protection. For the record, I wear a "skullcap" helmet.

  • RtstkNdvr@cs.com

    Of course helmet use won this poll by a wide margin. After all, those who participated, must first know how to read.

  • Frank

    I´m quite religous when it comes to motorcycle safety gear. Always wore gloves, boots and a helmet (open face). After thirty years of riding I now own only my second full face helmet and that´s due to the fact that there are no good goggles any more on the market. Wearing glasses makes it more diffilcult though. What I always liked about jet helmets was the great field of view, no chance to overlook a car in the blind angle. I guess I will stick to the full faces ones from now on but surely keep my jet!

  • Kai

    Ever since I was struck on my bicycle by a texting driver I've worn helmets, I prefer open face with goggles, but full face is nice in bad weather.
    Question: What is the first helmet in the photo? A Google search of Anvil full faced helmet yielded little to satisfy my curiosity.

  • http://motofficina.blogspot.com Sime

    very very strange…
    i was just reading a website yesterday about helmets and gears, there was written

    "I’d rather miss the wind in my hair than risk the wind in my brain."

    i like it, maybe i'll write it on my helmet too, and full face obviously, a friend of mine kissed the road with a stupid jet helmet, he got 15 surgery and he'll never got his face back.

  • http://www.pipeburn.com Andrew

    @Kai – That's a helmet concept from the guys at Anvil who we recently interviewed here.

  • Sick Mick

    How will we ever cull the gene pool if they make helmets mandatory? Honestly I don't see why we need the government to mandate how to survive. If you can't figure it out on your own, adios……

  • Troy

    I think that if people choose not to wear a helmet then it's just a matter of time before 'Natural Selection' makes it selection and choose the one without the helmet…..

  • http://www.mrlowlight.com Roger

    Like all opinions, they are like armpits, they all stink. I've been riding bikes for over 45 years and obviously ridden helmetless and now because of the helmet laws, wear an open face. I like the fact, that in some states of the US, people have a choice and I believe there are too many laws in this nanny state we cal Oz. Whatever activity you choose to do, there are risks….even walking out the door. Where do we draw the line on safety? Decisions should be made once information is understood. If I had a choice, I would probably wear a helmet most of the time, but sometimes I wouldn't and it should be my choice in a free society. Why? Because I like the feeling of riding without a helmet. There are no laws in Europe about wearing bicycle helmets and there are millions more riders there, here we have to wear them….though many don't. There is evidence that helmets can cause neck injuries, however there is also no denying that a head hitting the road at speed often ends in death or severe damage. Just like the choice between full or open face, wearing one at all should be optional. How would people feel if the safetycrats decided to ban open face helmets, because of the potential face damage. I'm pretty sure the full-face wearers here wouldn't give a toss, because it doesn't affect them.

  • http://sweetbike.tumblr.com Derek Larsen

    Last summer I spent close to 2 grand US–out of pocket since I am one of the million American's without healthcare–to have long overdue dental work performed. I'm not throwing that money away on some tired sensation of cool.

  • jack

    i like to have the option of open face and full face. sometimes, as silly as it may sound, a full face is more conveinient for those short city trips where you are going 40k's the whole bloody way. my full face is a road/dirt helmet so its a little more open in the eyes. similar eye cut out to the old 70's bell full faced helmets.

    no helmet is just suicide in my opinion.

  • ashwekar

    like the open face helmet. which one is it?

  • bennimac

    @ ashwekar. That's a Bell Custom 500

  • Lowflying

    Make your choice. Live with the consequences…

    I knocked my head on the fridge door once at about 2 kmh. Pretty stupid, but that's all it took to convince me that a helmet is a pretty good idea. Of course, good ideas are not everyone's cup of tea.

  • Adrian

    I know anything can happen at any time, but when I'm riding my smaller displacement bike (FTR223) I wear a open face (Bell Custom 500); while riding anything else full face (Simpson Bandit).

  • http://www.pipeburn.com Andrew

    @Adrian Isn't the Simpson Bandit an auto helmet?

  • http://bubblevisor.blogspot.com lenny bubble visor

    @andrew and kay
    that black helmet with the anvil sticker is a Bell helmet
    they just photshopped the anvil name in this photo

    http://6nicestpeople9.blogspot.com/2011/04/hellmart.html
    it's an old drag race helmet

  • http://www.pipeburn.com Andrew

    Here's a great infographic on American Helmet Laws from the guys over at Good Spark Garage. Well worth a look.

    @Lenny. Oh dear, it seems yr right. Naughty, naughty. But lordy, that IS an amazing-looking helmet. Want.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    "Make your choice. Live with the consequences…"

    Well and good, if you can demonstrate that you're insured for all medical consequences of riding helmetless, you should be able to get
    a no-helmet plate, which I think should be called a "Darwin Plate" or a "Charlie." As in the annual "Darwin Awards." If you can demonstrate coverage for a passenger as well, you'd buy a "Double Darwin" which might popularly be called a "DD"

    "Darwin" funds might also have to cover some losses in Federal Highway money, which would nix the deal :-(

  • rohn

    Not sure if it's like this in other cities, but can someone tell me why do the motorcycle cops here (kansas city) wear open face?

  • Emaychee

    remembered one example I'd seen previously, ended up being from wikipedia for some reason. shows potential impact across the 'face' of the helmet…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swisherhelmet1.jpg

  • MTGR

    I thought most states that had revoked the helmet law had clauses implemented requiring a minimum amount of insurance coverage (over and above the average) in order to legally ride without a helmet?

    It was my understanding it is that way here in Texas at least, though it seems to be widely ignored by both the average rider and the police enforcement. I never checked into it as I always wear a helmet anyway, though I agree in principle with that being a personal choice, particularly if they are required to carry appropriate insurance to ride helmet-less.

  • dave in kalifornia

    @ rohn:

    Police riders wear open-face helmets so they don't have to remove them 10000 times a day during the course of their duties…

  • http://darksatanicmill.com/ Zoran

    Call me a pussy but for me it is full face helmet, neck brace , back protection, boots and gloves when off-road and at least helmet and boots and gloves when on-road.
    Why? Because I am not that handsome so I can`t afford to fuck it up even more and I need my hands and feet to pay the bills.

  • Graham

    I can't remember which comedian it was… but someone had an excellent bit about how helmet laws were ridiculous…. "I mean any member of a species that engages in activities that makes helmets necessary – deserves whatever it has coming…"

    That said – I wear a helmet. I prefer the 'protein intake augmentation' of my open face helmet, but I live in Melbourne – it gets quite cool here – so a full face helmet is sometimes required.

  • MG

    Full face with mirrored lens… I get a kick out of the mysterious rider factor, haha. I just usually bring some cheap shop glasses for when it inevitably gets dark. Plus I would rather have the cooler night air on my face that hot, personal preference I guess.

  • http://motorrecycle.blogspot.com/ Ed Hunt

    Full face with the modular flip up front thingy. I took a rock from a gravel truck right in the center of my face shield one day 20 years ago and about lost control and went into the Columbia River — vowed I'd never ride open face. These days I work as a trauma nurse … I've seen what happens when your melon isn't in a bucket. Splat! I enjoy riding too much to throw it away just so I can know the sensation of bugs up my nostrils. Personally, I don't care if you choose to ride without a lid — so long as you are an organ donor.

  • Bo Selecta!

    Yes, there are too many laws in Australia but the helmets on motorbikes is one I would keep and make mine full face…I like to chew my bacon and egg rolls.
    The helmets on bicycles is bollocks though and as more bike paths are made available, that particular helmet law should be reconsidered. Everything has risks but I strongly believe everyone should be given the opportunity to make their own choices. What you will find is most people will make the right one. Treat people like idiots and they will behave accordingly, give people choices and most (not all but you'll never help those) will behave accordingly. We all know the story of the Dutch and German towns of Drachten and Bohmte…
    http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=54396&vf=1

  • mingh

    Full face. Always. I've seen a skateboarder landing head first on the kerb one day. Knocked out for an hour, gushes of blood from the open wound. And that was from skateboarding….
    In europe the choice is limited to open face or full, but to me there's no hint of doubt. I even wear a fluo orange police replica helmet which makes a big difference as cagers notice you easier and give more room. It's a helmet with a mouth piece that swings open, but i hardly ever ride it that way.
    Let's face it guys and gals, riding motorbikes in the heavy european traffic IS dangerous. If you crash, the consequences are usually very big. So anything I can do to make sure you make it back to the family is worth it.

  • MC_Kloppedie

    I wear a modular a Modular or "Flip-up"

  • Chris Mc

    I ride to work in Sydney everyday, for that I wear full face as I feel peak hour is the worst time to be on the road as far as safety. There really are alot of shit drivers in this city and to add to that the condition of the roads doesn't help. However i do rarely wear my open on a weekend ride if the weather is amazing. Taking safety out of the picture for a moment. As much as it may feel great to ride free in a full face there is something to be said about the anonymity of a full face. Like @MG I quite like being an anonymous rider, especially in city traffic. Cars tend to react to u differently and it's easier to ignore scooter hipsters at the lights. Usually the ones in a singlet, shorts and thongs (flip flops) or sometimes even high heels. When your flying through the air, the road is one long cheese grater so safety it is. Full face.

    I would be interested to know people think of wearing headphones (listening to music) while riding. That alone has got to be more unsafe than an open face helmet, perhaps even none.
    But then again I'm not a family man, what do u reckon AJ?

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    "Not sure if it's like this in other cities, but can someone tell me why do the motorcycle cops here (kansas city) wear open face?"

    Tradition as much as anything else. In Europe, they wear modular "flip-up" so they can open the helmet to talk without taking it off.
    Same story with those knee-high boots.

  • KC

    Full face always. I prefer modular but any full face helmet will do.

    I was launched over a car in a typical left turn accident in NY (he jumped out thinking he could make it – he didn't). The flight was excellent – the landing was rough. I slid some 30 feet face down on asphalt. The helmet took the impact – not me. This was a low speed incident.

    I did a bit of quad racing, too. I dropped down into a hollow but didn't have enough momentum to climb the other side. I positioned myself over the bars for the climb. I've done it before. Simple. I started the climb out, hit a loose patch, hit the throttle harder and the quad launched out hard. Unfortunately, I didn't. I landed on my back at the bottom. The quad shot up and flipped backwards. The bars crashed into my helmet smashing the visor. It wasn't pretty and I have some interesting scars. Yes, that was casual racing in a proper environment. It could have been worse – much worse.

    If I'm riding, I'm wearing a full face helmet.

  • subv3rt

    i wear a half helmet only because i have yet to find a full face one to fit my enormous head. i live in Idaho and we have great open country riding. i have in the past been tempted to go helmetless but recently met someone with a friend who needs a heart transplant and upon asking the doctor how long she could expect to be on a transplant list he replied, "oh we don't have transplant waiting lists in Idaho, we always have organs because of how many motorcyclists die because of not wearing a helmet."

    needless to say i won't be tempted to ride without a helmet ever again.

  • http://knsweb.net kumo

    Always full face helmet. AGATT

  • rooster

    Full-face, all the time. I always ride with all the gear, for safety purposes and also because I like the night rider factor (black helmet, visor, and all the gear).

    I don't know why anyone would ever wear an open-face. I justified my belief in fullface helmets two months ago when I peeled out of a corner and caught a bird with my head at 120kmh. It felt like getting punched in the face and it was a miracle I stayed upright. If I was wearing an open face he probably would've torn my nose off.

  • http://www.pipeburn.com Andrew

    @Chris MC – Eat my shorts, Harley boy!

    (BTW – we've already done a poll on headphones here. You might be interested in looking at the results… :P)

  • Anton

    Sure, I'd like to ride with an open face helmet if I could, but it's not me riding irresponsibly that prevents me, as always, it's all the other drivers (and riders) out there. And I'd never ride without a helmet, I've had enough bicycle crashes to know that even a low speed accident can put you at risk of a head injury.

    Besides, my gf said she won't look after me if I "smash my face".

  • Rui

    Always with a helmet. A full in the winter and a jet the rest of the year – with goggles or bubblevisor.

  • matt

    I wear a helmet, but will do as I choose. Sometimes I choose not to wear a lid. It's not a statement, just as deciding to wear boots or shoes is not either. Unless you are my women & pleasure me, your opinion on what I wear is meaningless.

  • matt

    davidabl – Oh of course, a sally who asks whether I have insurance, one in every crowd. Yes, I am insured. But do you ask that of all of the fat people? All the unexcercised? All the smokers? All the drinkers? The druggies? Those with big mouths? The stupid? Those that live on the other side of the fence/border/tracks? Potentially dangerous situations are all around us & most are preventable – but of course most do not avoid all of these situations. It's called life, now go grow a pair.

  • Sean

    Where can I find that Anvil helmet in the photo?? It's amazing. Thanks in advance.

  • Andrew

    @Sean – Read the initial comments; it's apparently an old Bell drag racing helmet. I don't like yr chances, but if you do manage to find one please let us know.

  • Ken

    I know better. But still I like to ride helmetless. And sometimes in flip flops and board shorts.

    I've had my share of accidents although I've always had a helmet on when they've happened (all offroad). But that was in Hawaii and before kids. Now I'm in CA, married with a kid and another on the way. Now its a dirtbike or fullface helmet. The driving is different. The hazards are greater and I have more to live for. In Hawaii, it really was a chore to suit up in that heat on your way to work or the beach. Full face wasn't an option unless it was raining or you would have sweat rolling into your eyes. I tried the jacket and boots thing, but it was just to much to carry around and people would steal your stuff if it sat unattended. Here, its cooler so you can actually wear protective clothes and not die of heat. For those who think I'm silly for worrying about being to warm, better check yourself as I get sick if I can't cool off.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/dclarson/collections/72157603849779701/ Dan

    While heat doesn't usually make me sick I understand the heat issue too. Combined with high humidity (98 degrees F with 98% humidity) and it can be brutal. The good news is the technology has improved greatly for both helmets and clothing. When its really hot I'll wear jeans with kevlar, mesh jacket and perforated gloves. I still wear full face but modulars are awesome – as soon as you stop you can pull it open so its like an open face.

  • S.C.

    Denver, CO

    Can ride w/o helmet if I wanted to…but always have one on, usually open face but I've probably put more miles on my full face. The same $ & sense logic many use to justify helmet laws can also be used to justify the outlawing of motorcycles themselves. Careful how much of your liberty you seed to someone other than yourself…and seriously consider wearing a f*ckin helmet!

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    As Dan says Mesh+Modular is the way to go when it's hot. As long as the mesh has armor…and I always wear those motocross kneepads and above-the-ankle boots no matter how hot it is. It must be said that if it's too hot to wear gear, then it's too hot to ride. As long as I'm moving i never feel really hot.

  • Raúl Vicente

    For me, wearing a fullface helmet all the time is not a matter of laws, but of choice. There's too much stuff I don't like thrown at my face while riding: cigarettes, bugs, pebbles, papers, leaves, wind, rain, dirt, and I even heard of a man who caught a piece of dog/roadkill onto his face… Tasty! But if someone prefers an open helmet or none, they are within their right to ponder the risks/advantages and do so, not limited by any law. I've ridden here in europe with no helmet on a few times and it IS wonderful. But not enough for me, and I'm glad for having one on when it made THE difference. Alas, I believe some protection is granted with a fullface one, but always bearing in mind that if I fall hard enough, a helmet won't make any difference. Whatever one decides, to ride wisely is the best protection, but one should face the fact that a big part of life is left to chance.

  • P. Frere

    The problem with the choice is that it isn't really a 'free' choice–the helmetless rider who crashes and has to have a bunch of expensive surgery passes on the cost to all of the rest of us. That is true even in the event that he has insurance. The insurance companies don't just absorb the losses–they socialize them to the rest of us with increased premiums.

    I agree with the idea that if you want your 'freedom' to ride without a helmet, that's all well and good, just don't externalize the cost of your bad decision onto me.

  • Zinzirider

    Helmeted for 32 years. I, like others have commented, find it uncomfortable without a full face. A June bug in the forehead through an open face shield and a bird impaled into my chest years ago helped to reinforce my decision. I would challenge the people that state there is "evidence that helmets cause neck injuries" to present the evidence. There is none; helmets do not cause neck injuries. Hitting the ground, a car, a building, or the curb with your head at speed causes neck injuries. Helmets help you survive the crash to realize your neck is hurt.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    "I agree with the idea that if you want your 'freedom' to ride without a helmet, that's all well and good, just don't externalize the cost of your bad decision onto me."

    Tthe perfect answer to "MATT" on May 4th. DUI drinke-drivers already pay insurance premiums that reflect risk factors, helmetless
    riders could do the same. As to the others this guy refers to the non DUI-drinkers, smokers, 'druggies' and iillegal aliens/poor people/fat people/ illegal aliens "paying their fair share of society's costs" there's a couple of problems that oughttta be obvious to anyone. Aside from the "fat people" they aren't so easy to identify,for one thing. It's not as easy as spotting an arrogant fool riding a bike without a helmet…the cops don't even have to check to see if he's"grown a pair."

  • Raúl Vicente

    But please don't forget to ponder the reality that is just being able to ride a motorcycle at all in your country. Within an absolutist perspective of live in society, for that luxury alone we all should pay a tax to countries that are in worst economical contexts (poverty and/or exploitation from 'more civilized and moralized' countries like ours) and their inhabitants who cannot even support a motorcycle.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    Ah, Mr. Vicente Most can support if not a small motorcycle then a bicycle–this has been the natural evolution almost everywhere. A
    a bicycle first then a small motorcycle (perhaps Vespa or moped styel), a larger motorcycle, then some larger motorcycle, a very small car and then a larger car. Britain, France, Korea,Japan, China it's been the same pattern. If folks are too impoverished to begin the evolution, it's probably because they're being robbed by their own national elites, working in conjunction with the multinational corporations etc.

    Ultimately oil supply, population pressures and resource limitations will probably prevent the entire world from rolling on 4 (or3!) wheels,
    but a part of the above evolution will take place everywhere. For example, in the US, a very large and rich country, the parallel evolution
    of public transportation was cut short when the pupulation jumped directly from the bicycle era to the private automobile. In less wealthy places/more crowded places, public transportation won't get efectively killed off, and a smaller proportion of the population will ultimately drive cars.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    "it's probably because they're being robbed by their own national elites, working in conjunction with the multinational corporations etc."

    This of course is a big part of the reason there's a push for political change in the Arab world, South America etc.etc.

  • Raúl Vicente

    If common sense were to be common place, there would be no laws at all. If you pursue to limit the freedom of others beyond a certain point, you too won't escape when it comes around… Unless, of course, you are one of the 'elite' who produces such laws.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    Seriously,I'm not sure just what you're trying to say now ?

  • Ray

    I live in California. We have the freedom to do as we are told.

  • http://www.see360studios.com davidabl

    At least it's California and not Libya or somewhere where they shoot ya if you don't do as your told…

  • Ratchop

    Well, I started riding at 18. I live In Idaho so no helmet laws for me. Riding motorcycles has been about freedom. Freedom to dance with death at any time or any speed. The freedom to leave town whenever you want, how ever fast you want to leave. The choice to wear full gear, or just hop on and run down to the bar for a few shots and a beer. Im a man of choice. Give me freedom, or give me death. Unfortunately, the latter leads to the other, but thats what freedom of choice is all about. I got a helmet about 3 months ago, its novelty, but its full face. I dont like it. I wear it when I go far, or plan on taking the freeway, or freeway speeds, but I much miss my first years of riding in a white t shirt, with sunglasses, jeans, and boots. Ignorance is bliss. True mothaphuckin statement. Im 22 now. Ive been down three times. All my fault. Knocked myself out one time which happened to be the time I wore a novelty 3/4 shell. I feel like I ride a little more careless with protection sometimes, but thats not the same for everyone, I know.

    My girlfriend has been riding for alittle over a year, about a season and a half. I got her into bikes, infact, I built her first bike. A 535 virago hardtail bobber. Shes a girly girl, loves looking good, and values her hair over her noggin. last saturday night she went down. We were heading home from a friends, she was showing off, going around 45. Went into a turn lane too soon, and noticed a curb separating a turn lane before the one she was planning on slowing for. She thought quick, locked the brakes, laid the bike down, and jumped away from it. While in the air, she got into the fetal position and covered her head the best she could. She hit head first, then cartwheeled 2 times. The bike hit the curb, and bounced clear over her rotating body, landing inthe opposite side of the road. She got up instantly and ran to me. She was panicked and her face was covered in blood. While the ambulance was on the way, a steady stream of blood came from under her hair. Ive never been so scared in my life. To think that all because she wasnt wearing a helmet…because she was worried about her hair…
    She has all of her teeth, the blood from her head was a small gash from a pebble she landed on. 3 staples and shes brand new. her lips are fat, her nose is skinned up, but alteast its there. She realizes how lucky she was, but she also realizes her choices saved her life. We will be getting her a helmet as soon as we finish her next bike, being that her old one is totaled. Im thinking something with some good rear suspension so a small divider will be a speed bump, not a life threatening pair of decisions.
    I want to live and ride for a long time. I mean well into my 40s….haha the girls gonna be a wife soon, and i cant imagine living without her. Shes gonna wear a helmet, so am I. Our choice.

  • Ken

    @ Zinzirider,

    I know this has been a while and I've just saw all the replies today, but the whole neck thing is usually due to a heavy helmet on a neck that already has a neck injury. It can really agrivate it. After getting rear-ended in a car accident, I had to quit running becuase of it. I almost had to quit riding off-road as well until I purchased a carbon fiber helmet. Very pricy, but I could ride again. And yes, only for short spells…

    For everyone else on the heat problem, I tried other mesh jackets, but with that tropical heat, I would have to bring a change of clothes with me where ever I went. Now, I am in Cali and none of that applies…

  • Caffeineandpixels

    Never heard of someone sliding along on the pavement say they wish they had spent less on a helmet or leathers.

  • Laser

    Anyone have any luck locating the model info on the first helmet? I've googled the hell out of bell drag racing helmets and come up empty.

  • bora

    what is the 1st helm black one has anvil sticker plz tell

  • Jeremy

    ugh, shut up. all of you. Oh you're so smart because you wear a full face, anyone that wears an open face or no helmet will be removed due to their idiocy through natural selection, etc

    Judging by half the comments on here I can tell the vast majority of you are totally new to riding, and secondly, your attitudes are in no way congruent to that of a legitimate motorcyclist.

    The entire basis of our hobby is risk! Unnecessary risk!

    I am seeing so much garbage on here that sound like it came from some latte sipping douche bag in a volvo, taking this self-righteous attitude of "I guess they're just too stupid to value their own safety" every time they see 2 wheels go by them on the freeway.

    Newsflash, know-it- all's: motorcycles are dangerous! Are we really going to sit here and make denigrating remarks because some people choose to take more risk than we do?

  • http://www.farndurk.com 10 Bones

    I raced for far too many years to not know what it's like to bash the shit out of my head. Helmet it is, folks. I used to be a streetcop in Los Angeles in the early 1990s. We used to call those idiots on a GSXR with flip flops and shorts "organ donors" over the radio.

    The first human I ever watched die before my eyes was a dumass on a bike without a hood. It wouldn't have mattered though, he ended up in three separate chunks on the highway when he slammed into a stopped semi-truck while the biker was doing at least 80+. What we used to call "DRT" … or .. Dead Right There.

    Got a $10 head? Wear a $10 helmet (quoting Kenny Roberts from a 1970s Bell Helmet magazine ad).

    Natural Selection takes care of the rest (but not without taking out a few innocents along the way first!).

  • phil r

    Is that a real Anvil helmet on the left?

  • No_Rice

    i’d like to know what that helmet is too…

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